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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2009, 01:08:30 PM »

Jan,

     Thank you for a very thorough answer.  I think I understand, but just to be clear, I'd like to go over it a little.  K?
     In Assignment 5b, I will be writing from inside the young person's head.  By doing that, though, I'm not supposed to say that I (the child) feel sad about the lost basketball game.  Instead, I'm supposed to express my feelings through my actions, right?
     Or, do I have that all wrong and what I'm actually supposed to do is 'Be' the child and become that personality?  I can see that the difference would be in 'Knowing what the child is like', in the first instance and 'Completely being the character', in the second instance.
     Then, in Assignment 6, if I come back and am a different child, but I write a fully believable and lovable, hateable, wanna' knock his head against a wall or completely share my life with her in it, that is what the lesson is seeking?  Or, if I am the same child that I wrote about in Assignment 5b, but I still present this completely human person whom the instructor can fully accept is real, then that is the purpose of the assignment?

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« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2009, 01:19:49 PM »

Joany, for what it's worth, I did 5b by "being" the character--first person POV, obviously, and totally inside his head, with sort of a stream of inner dialogue. He was a young teen flying for the first time, and was anxious about what he was supposed to be doing but trying to hide that and act cool. So I didn't have a whole lot of action--finding his seat, figuring out how to stow his stuff, having a brief conversation with a seatmate--but every time something happened, I had him talk to himself inside his head about it. That's how I showed his emotions.

Anyhow, my instructor said I "nailed" it, so I know that's one possible way to do the assignment successfully.

Stop shivering, now, okay?  Kiss  It actually turned out to be one of the most fun assignments for me!

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« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2009, 01:26:26 PM »

Joany,

It took me a while to do lesson 5.  Mostly, it's because I'm not around kids a lot and when I was, I forgot to observe them for the assignment.  Once I did it, I think it turned out well.  

Dani


Dani,

     Thank you.  You have not frightened me about Lesson 5.  Actually, I just wanted to understand it better and that seemed like a fun way to approach it.  "Cheesy"  In fact, it takes me awhile to do each of the assignments and I pretty much figured that everyone was the same way.  heh, heh

     It is difficult when you are not around young people and your purpose is to write for young people.  I'm sure that your assignment turned out well, as you have shown the ability and talent for expressing yourself very capably.  I have no doubts that you were able to fulfill the instructions without a hitch.  And actually, I'm so thankful that you asked this question 'cause I have seen reference to Assignment 5b, before, but until your question, I didn't know how to create an inquiry that would bring more information.  Thank you, again, for posting the question.  I feel a sense of fear in each of the lessons as I get closer to my turn to do them, but that's just me.  "Fear of failure."  Big, BIG fear, apparently.  But NOT so much that I have chosen NOT to take this path.  "Smiley"  I just close my eyes and *plow* right in, hopeful that I won't come out looking like a complete idiot.  haha.  Just kidding.  I accept that I'll sometimes look like an idiot, but I'll get over it, given a couple hundred years or so.  tee, hee

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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2009, 01:35:05 PM »

Kate,

     Thank you.  A tiny little piece of me [the size of a pinpoint] is actually beginning to look forward to Assignment 5.  Of course, that leaves a whole lot of the rest of me to struggle with so as not to run 'Kicking and screaming' in the other direction.  I have a little way to go, yet, so maybe I'll be able to calm myself down and talk me into doing the assignment by the time it is supposed to be turned in.  If not, there's always the other option; I can shake me until my teeth rattle and take away privileges until the job is done.  Either way, I see myself moving forward in the lessons.  "Cheesy"

     In truth, anytime I am writing, I am having fun.  Sadly, I go blissfully into the dark, forgetting that I'm supposed to be following some guidelines.  Thankfully, my instructor is only too understanding and leads me back on track.  She's a treasure.  Smiley

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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2009, 01:59:48 PM »

Thanks Joany!

My 5a was my great niece opening her Christmas gift, a bike and helmet, I'd bought her.  I observed her timidly approach the big gift bag, then run back to her Grandpa, my brother.  It took several attempts, but curiosity got her to keep trying.  Then I observed her attempting to ride for the first time. She's almost three.  She was timid, but curious.  She speaks fairly well and I was able to use dialogue as well.

Her first verbal reaction after getting the bag open was:  "I want my hat."  I had it looped over the handlebars and Grandma (my sister-in-law) had to help her remove it.

5b was her going to a playground for the first time.  It was first person.

Lesson 6 was her first day of school.  She was afraid to go because she didn't realize, until that morning, she'd have to stay at kindergarten without Grandpa.  She eventually works through her fear because of her curiousity.

Joany, just relax.  You'll do fine.  Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2009, 02:41:24 PM »

     Thanks, Dani.  Those sound like really cute stories.  While I was reading, I was imagining each detail and I was definitely in the moment.  Your description made me want to reach out and hug your great neice.  She sounds like a doll.  I'm glad to know that she has so many people who care so much about her.
     Have you thought of taking the stories that you write about her and making a special book that she will be able to keep?  I'm sure that would be something very special for her.
     I have to say I love it that the first thing she wanted was her hat.  haha.  The last thing you expect is exactly what a kid is gonna' do.  Thank you for sharing your experiences with me.

     I don't know if you ever read about my writing experiences, but one of the things that I get to do every single time I submit anything is to have something akin to a 'Panic Attack' about whether everything was done correctly.  Nothing harmful.  Just enough to remind me that my heart is still pumping.  haha

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2009, 08:04:27 PM »

No, I hadn't thought of keeping a book of the stories I write about her.  Yes, I'm aware of your panic attacks.  Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2009, 01:33:17 AM »

     I'm sure she would love them.

     I don't think they are really panic attacks and I'm sure that at some point, my confidence will grow enough that I won't get so stressed-out over submissions, anymore.  Were you ever overly-stressed by submissions?

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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2009, 10:42:15 AM »

     I'm sure she would love them.

     I don't think they are really panic attacks and I'm sure that at some point, my confidence will grow enough that I won't get so stressed-out over submissions, anymore.  Were you ever overly-stressed by submissions?

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2009, 08:40:07 PM »

Dani,

     That is so cool.  It just never occurred to me that everyone who writes didn't go through that kind of stress at some time.  Next time I send something in (which should be tomorrow or the next day), I'm gonna' try harder to stay coooooooool and see if I can get away from the attacks.  You have inspired me.  Thank you.  I honestly did not know it was possible to completely avoid the stress, but it does sound as if you are able to do that.  If you can, maybe I can, too.  Thank you.  Good job.

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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2009, 10:07:00 AM »

I’m currently working on assignment five…finally finished up four! Grin (Four was hard for me) Anyway, I know in 5b I’m supposed to put myself in my character’s head and become my character, but am I supposed to give my interpretation in 5a from a child’s perspective? I observed a six-year-old that comes to play with my son, but I wrote 5a exactly from my perspective. Should I have written it from another six-year-olds perspective? I know I’m not supposed to make anything up or write what I think that child is feeling. I wrote exactly what I saw occurring, spicing up dialogue and moment to moment action, but it’s from an adult’s perspective…is that okay?
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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2009, 12:52:31 PM »

The "description" part is from your perspective...so 5a is you speaking.

The inner portrait is as if you climbed inside the child's head and began experiencing his life as him.
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« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2009, 10:41:41 AM »

Oh, good. Thank you, Jan!  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2009, 01:25:24 PM »

I am really struggling with just getting started on 5a. I just don't know where or what would be a good place to be able to observe children for the length of time and detail I need. I don't want to come off stalker either. I loved the Walmart idea, but how did you do that? Did you follow them around the store or stand in the aisle with your notepad? How did they not notice you?

I am a skater and thought of observing a "learn to skate" session to find kids I don't know, and observe them putting themeslves in a new situation (like the example in the manual about the kid at the pool with the diving board). I could easily do this without any questions being asked. But I was really hoping to find something outside of skating and find kids I don't know. All the regular skating kids I know personally. What to do?

Need help!!

Thanks!
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« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2009, 01:30:23 PM »

For Walmart, some of the best places are the arcade some have. Hang out near it like you are waiting for someone. Or slowly (very slowly) roll your cart through the toy and game system isles. No one has to know that you aren't looking to buy something for your own kid.

For the skating, check out the beginner lessons. I know our ice arena has those and there are always new kids coming to try it out for the first time in the beginner lessons. You might see some kids you don't know yet.

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