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Beth Consugar
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« on: April 28, 2010, 12:32:07 PM »

I am almost certain that the template on the ICL web site for the assignments (the Word template that ICL created for us) has the phrase "The End" at the ... well, at the end!  My darling hubby has asked me if I am sure that I should be putting that there.  I told him "of course.  It was on the template they created."  I know it won't matter much for assignments, but should we really be using "The End" or should we just end the story or article?  What about submissions to publishers?  I assume they won't want to see that there.

Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2010, 12:37:00 PM »

Hi Beth, In my assigments and submissions, I never use "The End." I think it's just understood and optional.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2010, 01:01:46 PM »

I never use "the end" in real life submissions. But it won't horrify an editor is you do.

And it's fine to leave it off assignments too. I tell you why it's SOMETIMES helpful in assignment is that sometimes a student doesn't have a plot or has trouble finding an ending to a story or article...and "the end" helps us know there aren't pages missing.
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 10:55:18 PM »

A guest is reading this.

Talk about catacombs.

Shauna, Honey, di you drag a few guests into the catacombs earlier today? there seem to be a few wandering around down here...
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 10:57:05 PM »

A guest is reading this.

Talk about catacombs.

Shauna, Honey, di you drag a few guests into the catacombs earlier today? there seem to be a few wandering around down here...


It's not a human...it's a "bot".
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2011, 10:58:36 PM »

It was a joke.

Dude, what happened to your humor tonight?

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2011, 11:13:58 PM »

I've heard that if you put "The End" at the end of a manuscript, when an editor gets it, they consider it the 'mark' of an amateur.
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2011, 12:17:00 AM »

What ever happened to:

   ###

    or

  -30-

   or was that
 
   -33-
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2011, 12:19:38 AM »

What ever happened to:

   ###

    or

  -30-

   or was that
 
   -33-

Omigosh, it's code!
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2011, 07:02:47 AM »

I never did "the end," but I did use -30- for a long time because it was requried in the age of the dinosaurs when I was working for a newspaper. Although most working writers don't put "the end," I actually know some who do. I suspect editors don't think much about it at all.

I tell you though, I would never ever ever do it with a really dinky micro publisher or one of the one-man-band magazines. I knew someone who ALWAYS put "the end." She had always put "the end." She was determined to do it forever. Then one day she sent something to a micropublisher (because it was a poetry collections and basically that's who publishes those). The publisher did a decent job making it into a book....except that the last poem in the book had an extra line to it -- "the end." Which made the poem hysterical since it was kind of a dark-ish poem and when you read it with a last line of "the end," it changed the whole meaning of the poem and made it sound like it was about suicide.

So anyway, my story for the morning.
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2011, 08:49:31 AM »

What a surprise it must have been for the poet!

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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2011, 09:57:21 AM »

I never did "the end," but I did use -30- for a long time because it was requried in the age of the dinosaurs when I was working for a newspaper. Although most working writers don't put "the end," I actually know some who do. I suspect editors don't think much about it at all.

I tell you though, I would never ever ever do it with a really dinky micro publisher or one of the one-man-band magazines. I knew someone who ALWAYS put "the end." She had always put "the end." She was determined to do it forever. Then one day she sent something to a micropublisher (because it was a poetry collections and basically that's who publishes those). The publisher did a decent job making it into a book....except that the last poem in the book had an extra line to it -- "the end." Which made the poem hysterical since it was kind of a dark-ish poem and when you read it with a last line of "the end," it changed the whole meaning of the poem and made it sound like it was about suicide.

So anyway, my story for the morning.

That would be wild, adding deeper meaning to the poem.

Anyone have any idea why they used to use -30-?  Why the number 30?
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2011, 11:59:57 AM »

I think it's part of telegraph code. It was adopted when newsmen sent in their stories over the "wire" and it signaled the end of the story. That's what I was told anyway in the way back.
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2011, 01:00:00 PM »

I never did "the end," but I did use -30- for a long time because it was requried in the age of the dinosaurs when I was working for a newspaper. Although most working writers don't put "the end," I actually know some who do. I suspect editors don't think much about it at all.

I tell you though, I would never ever ever do it with a really dinky micro publisher or one of the one-man-band magazines. I knew someone who ALWAYS put "the end." She had always put "the end." She was determined to do it forever. Then one day she sent something to a micropublisher (because it was a poetry collections and basically that's who publishes those). The publisher did a decent job making it into a book....except that the last poem in the book had an extra line to it -- "the end." Which made the poem hysterical since it was kind of a dark-ish poem and when you read it with a last line of "the end," it changed the whole meaning of the poem and made it sound like it was about suicide.

So anyway, my story for the morning.



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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2011, 01:20:04 PM »

I think it's part of telegraph code. It was adopted when newsmen sent in their stories over the "wire" and it signaled the end of the story. That's what I was told anyway in the way back.

Do you know what the deal was with ###?
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