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Author Topic: Final Thoughts about the Final Assignment -- Looking for Some Feedback  (Read 717 times)
JEM
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« on: March 03, 2010, 10:19:24 PM »

Greetings!  Although I'm new to the message boards, I thought I'd share some feedback about my experience with the basic children's magazine course, as well as seek advice about how to proceed with writing from this point forward.

For starters, I've thoroughly enjoyed the course and have benefited from the insightful, polite, and encouraging feedback of my editor.  Yet, I think there are a few changes that could be made to the course and was wondering what everyone else thought:

1. The children's magazine directory should include more Internet publications.  Outside of the religious-affiliated (I'm not referring to newspapers or magazines that are geared toward parents) magazines, there are really only a handful of magazines truly geared at kids (e.g., Highlights, Spider, Cricket, etc.)  With publication consolidation occurring left and right, I think the magazine directory needs to include the emerging Internet publications, especially the ones that pay a nominal fee. 
2. When it comes to marketing, I also believe there needs to be more of an emphasis on the editorial calendars of the magazines.  By knowing what magazines are looking for, it's easier to write and achieve placement in them.
3. I wish there had been a more comprehensive assessment of experience and skills before the course.  Although it seems like everyone who succeeds in being accepted must take the basic magazine course, it might be useful to tweak the initial assessment course/have the class instructor suggest changes to another class or format if they recognize that the students' abilities may be best suited elsewhere.   It seems the advanced magazine writing course is more of the same from the message boards but seeks to publish multiple pieces instead of one.  Since I'm already a columnist for several papers and wanted to break into children's genre,it might have been helpful to have this option.

As I embark on my final assignment, I'm grateful for taking the course and was wondering if I should take the advanced magazine course or just skip to the novel class. My instructor has already offered to write a letter of recommendation on my behalf.  Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Cheers!
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Mikki S
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2010, 11:31:50 PM »

Hi JEM,

I've finished the beginning course of ICL, the advanced novel course, and am into my second advanced novel course.  I've also been published.

The things you've suggested are interesting, but I'm going to give you an opposing opinion.

1. Here I agree with you.  I have always thought there were more magazines listed that were geared towards parents, teachers and religious organizations, as well as those which are strictly regional, than those that are specifically for children.  And it would be good to have the Internet magazines that are acceptable as publishing credits to print editors, as there are a lot of them that are not acceptable...or so I've been told.

2.  Editorial calendars change from month to month, even those that are themed.  As an example, last summer ODYSSEY came out with a theme about the Wild Horses of America, and the due date for query was Sept. 4th.  I sent in a query and never heard a word, which I thought was odd since I've published in that magazine before.  Then about 2 months ago, I found out that the horse theme was pushed back, the due date for queries was Feb. for the May/June issue. Very unusual, since magazines usually want about 6 - 8 months between query deadline and publication, and ODYSSEY is no exception.

Not only that, but the ones that are not themed, editors change their minds/needs/wants all the time, so since the market books are published at least 9 months ahead of time, knowing what editors want in July 2009 doesn't mean squat by Feb. or March 2010.

3. The beginning ICL course is for beginning writers.  There is no question about that.  For the instructors or the administration to try to take each individual writer into account, and somehow figure out how to assess what they already know...or think they know...about writing for children would not only be an impossible task, but would require many more staff, and the tuition would go up.  Not something many people want.

What you learn in the beginning course is the foundation you need to write for children.  Writing short stories and non-fiction articles gives you the basics of writing for children...and forgive my bluntness, but being a columnist does not mean you know anything about plot, dialogue, characterization, conflct, settings, marketing, story/book analysis or any of the other myriad of information and education that you need to know to write successfully for children.

As for the advanced courses, it is only right that you have to take the beginning course before you are allowed to take either of the advanced courses. The Institute of Children's Literature has one of the best reputations for the teaching of writing of any school in the US.  Just because someone believes that they know enough to bypass the initial course and go into an advanced class does not mean that they actually DO know enough.  It would not advance the reputation of the ICL for someone to be put into one of the advanced courses and then have the instructor realize that this person should not be there, and could not write well enough, hadn't learned enough of the basics, to be submitting their work.

There are many people here, myself included, who have published and/or been in a writing field of some genre before taking the ICL beginning course.  I don't think you would find a single one who does NOT feel that what they have learned about writing for children from that course transcends everything else they thought they knew.

You have a choice of taking either the magazine course or the novel course.  It's not a matter of "skipping" one for the other, it's merely a matter of what you want to do with what you have learned so far.  Believe me...you have NOT learned all there is to know about being successful in children's writing. I've been writing and publishing for three years, and would not presume to say I know even half of what I should, and what I hope to eventually learn.

Mikki
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